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Auteur:  pafleben [ Jeu Avr 20, 2006 19:35 ]
Sujet du message:  tableau RA mago

Cost _ bonus _____ MoM _ WP _ AA _ best so far
0 ____ 0.0% _____ 0 ____ 0 ___ 0 ___ 0.0%
1 ____ 2.0% _____ 1 ____ 0 ___ 0 ___ 2.0%
2 ____ 2.9% _____ 1 ____ 1 ___ 0 ___ 2.9%
2 ____ 2.8% _____ 1 ____ 0 ___ 1 ___ 2.9%
3 ____ 3.7% _____ 1 ____ 1 ___ 1 ___ 3.7%
4 ____ 4.0% _____ 2 ____ 0 ___ 0 ___ 4.0%
5 ____ 4.9% _____ 2 ____ 1 ___ 0 ___ 4.9%
5 ____ 4.8% _____ 2 ____ 0 ___ 1 ___ 4.9%
6 ____ 5.8% _____ 2 ____ 1 ___ 1 ___ 5.8%
8 ____ 6.8% _____ 2 ____ 2 ___ 0 ___ 6.8%
9 ____ 7.7% _____ 2 ____ 2 ___ 1 ___ 7.7%
9 ____ 7.5% _____ 2 ____ 1 ___ 2 ___ 7.7%
10 ___ 7.0% _____ 3 ____ 0 ___ 0 ___ 7.7%
11 ___ 8.0% _____ 3 ____ 1 ___ 0 ___ 8.0%
11 ___ 7.9% _____ 3 ____ 0 ___ 1 ___ 8.0%
12 ___ 9.4% _____ 2 ____ 2 ___ 2 ___ 9.4%
12 ___ 8.8% _____ 3 ____ 1 ___ 1 ___ 9.4%
14 ___ 9.9% _____ 3 ____ 2 ___ 0 ___ 9.9%
15 ___ 10.8% ____ 3 ____ 2 ___ 1 ___ 10.8%
15 ___ 10.6% ____ 3 ____ 1 ___ 2 ___ 10.8%
18 ___ 12.5% ____ 3 ____ 2 ___ 2 ___ 12.5%
20 ___ 12.5% ____ 3 ____ 3 ___ 0 ___ 12.5%
20 ___ 11.0% ____ 4 ____ 0 ___ 0 ___ 12.5%
21 ___ 13.4% ____ 3 ____ 3 ___ 1 ___ 13.4%
21 ___ 12.0% ____ 4 ____ 1 ___ 0 ___ 13.4%
21 ___ 11.9% ____ 4 ____ 0 ___ 1 ___ 13.4%
22 ___ 12.9% ____ 4 ____ 1 ___ 1 ___ 13.4%
24 ___ 15.2% ____ 3 ____ 3 ___ 2 ___ 15.2%
24 ___ 14.7% ____ 3 ____ 2 ___ 3 ___ 15.2%
24 ___ 14.0% ____ 4 ____ 2 ___ 0 ___ 15.2%
25 ___ 14.9% ____ 4 ____ 2 ___ 1 ___ 15.2%
25 ___ 14.7% ____ 4 ____ 1 ___ 2 ___ 15.2%
28 ___ 16.7% ____ 4 ____ 2 ___ 2 ___ 16.7%
30 ___ 17.4% ____ 3 ____ 3 ___ 3 ___ 17.4%
30 ___ 16.7% ____ 4 ____ 3 ___ 0 ___ 17.4%
31 ___ 17.6% ____ 4 ____ 3 ___ 1 ___ 17.6%
34 ___ 19.5% ____ 4 ____ 3 ___ 2 ___ 19.5%
34 ___ 19.0% ____ 4 ____ 2 ___ 3 ___ 19.5%
34 ___ 15.0% ____ 5 ____ 0 ___ 0 ___ 19.5%
35 ___ 16.0% ____ 5 ____ 1 ___ 0 ___ 19.5%
35 ___ 15.9% ____ 5 ____ 0 ___ 1 ___ 19.5%
36 ___ 17.0% ____ 5 ____ 1 ___ 1 ___ 19.5%
38 ___ 18.1% ____ 5 ____ 2 ___ 0 ___ 19.5%
39 ___ 19.0% ____ 5 ____ 2 ___ 1 ___ 19.5%
39 ___ 18.8% ____ 5 ____ 1 ___ 2 ___ 19.5%
40 ___ 21.8% ____ 4 ____ 3 ___ 3 ___ 21.8%
40 ___ 20.0% ____ 4 ____ 4 ___ 0 ___ 21.8%
41 ___ 21.0% ____ 4 ____ 4 ___ 1 ___ 21.8%
42 ___ 20.9% ____ 5 ____ 2 ___ 2 ___ 21.8%
44 ___ 22.9% ____ 4 ____ 4 ___ 2 ___ 22.9%
44 ___ 20.9% ____ 5 ____ 3 ___ 0 ___ 22.9%
45 ___ 21.8% ____ 5 ____ 3 ___ 1 ___ 22.9%
48 ___ 23.8% ____ 5 ____ 3 ___ 2 ___ 23.8%
48 ___ 23.3% ____ 5 ____ 2 ___ 3 ___ 23.8%
50 ___ 25.3% ____ 4 ____ 4 ___ 3 ___ 25.3%
50 ___ 24.6% ____ 4 ____ 3 ___ 4 ___ 25.3%
54 ___ 26.2% ____ 5 ____ 3 ___ 3 ___ 26.2%
54 ___ 24.3% ____ 5 ____ 4 ___ 0 ___ 26.2%
55 ___ 25.3% ____ 5 ____ 4 ___ 1 ___ 26.2%
58 ___ 27.3% ____ 5 ____ 4 ___ 2 ___ 27.3%
60 ___ 28.2% ____ 4 ____ 4 ___ 4 ___ 28.2%

Auteur:  Darelond [ Ven Avr 21, 2006 8:26 ]
Sujet du message: 

L'inconvenient de ce tableau, c'est qu'on ne voit pas le gain qu'on aurait à ne pas prendre Maitre Mage. On ne voit pas ce que donne un Surcharge 2 + Acuité 2, ce qui est dommage car en terme de dégâts, surcharge est plus interessant que Maitre Mage.

Auteur:  pafleben [ Ven Avr 21, 2006 9:48 ]
Sujet du message: 

bin vi ce tableau montre que les meilleurs combinaisons a prendre suivant le nb de points de royaume

Auteur:  Darelond [ Ven Avr 21, 2006 9:51 ]
Sujet du message: 

Non justement .... ce tableau ne montre pas toutes les combinaisons, c'est ce que je lui reproche.

Il part du principe que MM > surcharge = acuité.

Auteur:  Nicox [ Ven Avr 21, 2006 10:46 ]
Sujet du message: 

Il montre que dalle ce tableau :doute:

Auteur:  Darelond [ Ven Avr 21, 2006 13:20 ]
Sujet du message: 

Moi c'est la différence et la signification de la colonne Bonus et la colonne Best So Far que je en comprend pas bien

Auteur:  pafleben [ Ven Avr 21, 2006 17:53 ]
Sujet du message: 

bonus en % de degats
best sor far le meilleur bonus qu on peut avoir avec un nb de rp donné

exemple pour 24 rp

MM SP AA
24 ___ 15.2% ____ 3 ____ 3 ___ 2 ___ 15.2%
24 ___ 14.7% ____ 3 ____ 2 ___ 3 ___ 15.2%
24 ___ 14.0% ____ 4 ____ 2 ___ 0 ___ 15.2%

mm3 + sp3 + aa2 donne un bonus de degats de 15.2%
mm3+sp2+aa3 donne un bonus de degats de 14.7%
mm4+sp2+aa0 donne un bonus de degats de 14%

alors non ce tableau ne part pas sur le principe que mm>aa car vaut mieux prendre mm3+aa2 que mm4 seul

best sor far meilleur conbinaison 15.% donc la premiere

apparement sp>aa mais a nb de point equal ca donne que 0.1 % de degats de plus (quand tu prends sp)

suis je clair sinon passe sur ts :p

Auteur:  Darelond [ Sam Avr 22, 2006 2:05 ]
Sujet du message: 

Ce tableau ne montre pas que Surcharge >> MM c'est le problème

Auteur:  Shandess [ Sam Avr 22, 2006 7:58 ]
Sujet du message: 

On a compris Darelond, il reste que c'est mieux que rien

Auteur:  pafleben [ Sam Avr 22, 2006 10:55 ]
Sujet du message: 

peut etre parcque mm>sp

je sais pas quand j prends ces lignes

1 ____ 2.0% _____ 1 ____ 0 ___ 0 ___ 2.0%
2 ____ 2.9% _____ 1 ____ 1 ___ 0 ___ 2.9%

mm 1 donne 2% de degtas en plus
sp1 donne 0.9 % de degats en plus (avec base+mm) donc pour moi sp1 donne -de 0.9% seul

quand on regarde d autre ligne on s apercoit que sp donne a peu pret 0.9% par niveau peut etre pas a haut niveau quand on a un mm grand

sp cets un pourcentage pour faire un critique donc je sais pas si sp>mm vu que mm est constant

Auteur:  Luni [ Ven Mai 05, 2006 14:46 ]
Sujet du message: 

Je me demande si ce tableau est appliquable pour un enchant moon compte tenu du fait qu'en RvR, un enchant moon utilise a 70% du temps le fameux combo debuff-DD...

Sur un debuff 50%, l'enchant va caper systématiquement et par conséquent seul surcharge de pouvoir apportera un plus en matière de dégats.

Je me trompe p-e.

:mage:

Auteur:  Darelond [ Ven Mai 05, 2006 15:23 ]
Sujet du message: 

Je présume que Acuité augmente ton cap de dégâts.

Pour ce qui est de maître Mage, j'aurais tendance a penser ce que te sers juste a te rapprocher de ton cap. Enfin rien est moins sur.

Pour un enchant je ferai plutôt confiance a acuité qu'à MM. En plus ca augmente ta reserve de mana ;)

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